GWP or DD??

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GWP or DD??

Postby goosedowner » Sun Sep 16, 2018 9:56 am

Thinking about getting a new dog in the next year and I want to make sure I make the right decision on which breed to get..After years of raising and hunting labs I bought a Braque but now after 4 years I realized how much I missed duck hunting so my next dog needs to be A duel purpose dog. I want a close working dog that can retrieve ducks in cold weather. Right now I'm considering a GWP or a DD. We live on a 72 acre farm so I have plenty of room for exerciseing and training.
Any thoughts on these dogs or maybe another breed would be appreciated.
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Re: GWP or DD??

Postby Misskiwi67 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:47 am

Sounds like a great choice to me, but I’m slightly biased.

You can’t really go wrong with a DD, look for dogs with strong duck search and marking abilities.

Several good GWP kennels too, but beware many are producing g soft coats and primarily upland skill sets.
Vivian II vom Jagdkonig- VJP 71 HZP 191 VGP 262 Prize III
Arabella vom Hoheren Boden- VJP 74 HZP 181/189 VGP 281 Prize I
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Re: GWP or DD??

Postby flitecontrol » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:19 am

I've had GWP and DD. Not a whole lot of difference IMO, with the DD possibly having a stronger prey drive, more independence, and less cooperation. As to close working, I had one DD that really ranged out, which was fine in open country, but I hardly ever saw him in the woodcock thickets. In two years, never killed a woodcock over him, but I spent a lot of time looking for him! But that dog was a great waterfowl retriever, and would out swim my son-in-law's Lab to get to a duck. My current DD is good at hunting woodcock, and loves to retrieve ducks. His predecessor, also a DD, didn't point and had a soft coat. But he did well retrieving ducks. Guy I sold him to was looking for a tracking dog, and he did well at that.

I'd look at the parents' test scores and those from previous litters (if any) when deciding on a pup. Find out what types of hunting the sire and dam are used for. Try to get a pup from dogs that hunt the same species you do.
I've had several really good dogs, but none were perfect. Neither am I, so keep that in mind!
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Re: GWP or DD??

Postby Drahthaar1108 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:37 pm

You have great advice already.
I am also partial to DD. some are close hunters, some range, some have great coats 10 /10 11/11 some have 7 /4 , look at their parents test & blood lines. Forrest
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Re: GWP or DD??

Postby JONOV » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:28 am

Whichever direction you go in, get a dog from a breeder that hunts ducks.

Sounds simple, but some don't, or don't do it more than once or twice a season.

Make sure that whichever direction you go, you see the parents. AKC dogs seem to have a few more soft coated "10 Foot" coats. DD lines seem to throw a disproportionate amount of slicks. That's just my impression and by no means implies a statistical significance. NAVHDA breeders are probably a good way to look do...Schwarzwald or Thunderhills come to mind.

And ask around too...Its a rare dog that is man-sharp but a lot of dogs that might not be so good around other dogs, and no one knows it because the owner/handler is smart and proactive about it, and these dogs do well and I know some of them get bred.
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Re: GWP or DD??

Postby 3drahthaars » Wed Sep 19, 2018 5:46 pm

X2 for JONOV post.

Note that a tight coat may not have an undercoat necessary for waterfowl hunting.

Though attractive you don't want the DK with a beard look.

Temperament, temperament, temperament!!!

Lastly, look at midwestern kennels... probably hunt more and hunt real wild birds.... lots of kennels with kennel princesses that pass tests and are lucky to escape the run for 1 or 2 hunts a season.

Caveat emptor...

My $.02...
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Re: GWP or DD??

Postby ForestDump » Wed Sep 19, 2018 8:06 pm

I’d personally go with another Lab.
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